Andrew Juge of the Saints Nation stops by to discuss the Saints meltdown in Denver. He wonders why the Saints aren't using the tackle eligible play anymore to help the run game. He also explains why the Saints will have a tough off season trying to rebuild the defense. Ralph asks if the Saints have finally given up on the 2012 season. Andrew also wonders what the hell Joe Vitt was thinking making some of the moves he did. And finally Andrew and Ralph argue over if LSU has a shot this week against Alabama.